Comments on: A couple of remarks about the infallibility of 12-step programs http://whatmesober.com/2009/04/20/a-couple-of-comments-about-the-infallibility-of-12-step-programs/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:39:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Rebecca H http://whatmesober.com/2009/04/20/a-couple-of-comments-about-the-infallibility-of-12-step-programs/comment-page-1/#comment-637 Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:29:03 +0000 http://whatmesober.com/2009/04/20/a-couple-of-comments-about-the-infallibility-of-12-step-programs/#comment-637 Thank you posting this. Our society and medical professionals locked up the insane in the last century. The big book thumpers are sometimes pious but I am able to tolerate it for two reasons. One, the people generally are living in a fear based state of perpetual ‘my disease is doing pushups’ and or they are sick of the watered down AA that has developed as a result of people dropping out of the program after a decade of recovery. I see the young people following each other around and a lot of sober insanity expanding in our community and very little behavior MOD and a lot of justifications based on the fact they are clean and sober. Lots of Hep C as well to comment albiet briefly on your other post.
I am a book quoter myself only because it helps me to keep it simple and focus on what works for me, and what does not (me treating me).


“the watered down AA that has developed as a result of people dropping out of the program after a decade of recovery”

An interesting observation, and quite at variance with my own over the past two decades. It seems to me that AA works as well as it ever did; I just want to see it work better. I’d be interested in having you expand on that thought (perhaps on your own blog, or this one). To me, it doesn’t quite seem to follow, but perhaps I don’t understand.

]]> By: lightning http://whatmesober.com/2009/04/20/a-couple-of-comments-about-the-infallibility-of-12-step-programs/comment-page-1/#comment-590 Thu, 07 May 2009 19:30:51 +0000 http://whatmesober.com/2009/04/20/a-couple-of-comments-about-the-infallibility-of-12-step-programs/#comment-590 I enjoy your blog.I am a supporter and believer in AA.I have attended other recovery programs that offer helpful and useful treatment methods to recover as well.We do know their are successful programs of recovery outside AA.I find it interesting that the psychiatric and psychology sciences learned from “bill’s” 12 steps and developed recovery methods based on the original doctrine.Those sciences were not able to present a solution until the “6″ steps were discovered,practiced,and proven to work.They then began to study and analyze why and how.The original program was only 6 steps and later changed to 12 steps.

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